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N Walsh just doesn t have the same skill with the characters that Sayers had although I have enjoyed one or two of Walsh s other novels and it s just it s not really Peter and Harriet somehow I remember reading that Sayers ended up stuck with the plot of this one hence never finishing it in my own writing I ve always followed the line that if I m really resistant to writing something there s something wrong with it which just plugging away at it won t fix Walsh probably did an admirable job of deciding where Sayers had meant the story to go but that doesn t mean that s what Sayers would have eventually done with it and I think it would be the better for an author who felt able to just mess around with it rather than someone constrained by being true to a different author s original idea There s a reason stories develop as they re writtenI m not sure if I m going to bother with A Presumption of Death and The Attenbury Emeralds at all I haven t read The Attenbury Emeralds at all but I have plenty of things I should be reading Maybe Busman s Honeymoon is where I should leave Peter and Harriet Dorothy L Sayers abandoned her Lord Peter Wimsey novels for the most part some 20 years before she died but she left a half completed Lord Peter Wimsey novel Jill Paton Walsh hired to finish the novel captures Sayers voice so admirably in Thrones Dominations that the reader can t tell where Sayers ends or Walsh begins no greater praiseIn this novel set in 1936 with Edward VIII stumbling onto the throne Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane return to London following the tumultuous honeymoon detailed in Busman s Honeymoon 1937 Walsh mingles references to the anxiety provoked by the upcoming war and a feckless new ing with a neat mystery and a commentary on the changed nature of marriage in the 20th century just the sort of philosophically tinged narrative one would expect from Sayers As to the mystery extremely beautiful but silly Rosamund Harwell has been rescued by the wealthy Laurence Harwell from her life as a manneuin in a dress shop The Harwells coo and bill like love birds even after two years of marriage making them the talk of London When Rosamund goes off to Rose Cottage in Hampton for a respite she turns up dead smothered to death Lord Peter s brother in law Detective Inspector Charles Parker calls him in to assist in the investigation and Lord Peter immediately begins to point out some odd aspects to the case While I thoroughly loved the cleverly plotted mystery itself what truly delighted me was the exploration of Harriet Vane s life as a new bride Like modern women since she struggles to juggle the demands of home family and her work as a novelist much like Sayers herself I also loved the scenes featuring the snobbish overbearing Helen Duchess of Denver wife of Lord Peter s dim witted elder brother as she tries to steer her sister in law out of her career a working wife being anathema in the aristocracy into a life of parties with only the right people bullying servants paying visits to other wives and producing children in other words the life expected of the decorative wife of a member of the peerage The inevitable clash proved delicious beyond words Helen has never approved of Harriet and her scandalous past and I look forward to see how the relations between these two strong willed women past and I look forward to see how the relations between these two strong willed women play out in future books Thrones Dominations gives readers hope of many years of Lord Peter and Harriet Vane I ve already bought The Attenbury Emeralds and the newest The Late Scholar but I don t have the immediate seuel A Presumption of Death yet Now to find the time to read all these Nice enough uaint Comfortable reunion with characters that I loved fiercely in my younger years I read and re read all the Lord Peter Wimsey novels so many times I have had this one here sitting on my shelf for uite a while Yes nice enough but not compelling enough to finish Read half of it and then had it lying around my coffee table for a month Surmised that I won t finish it any and proceeded to read the last two chapters for some closure Loved the Author s Note at the end These characters are like very old good friends Last year I finally read all of the Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries and enjoyed them thoroughly In fact I missed Wimsey so much that when a book group I am a member of suggested reading the novels written with the involvement of Jill Paton Walsh I was tempted However I had read the first Sophie Hannah so called Poirot seuel and been horribly disappointed Reading friends assured me that these were much better and I am so glad I list This should be great fun for most fans of Lord Peter WimseyReview of Kindle editionPublication date March 15 1999Publisher St Martin s PaperbacksLanguage EnglishASIN B005J52SJ2527 pagesNo less an authority than Ruth Rendell said that it is impossible to tell where Dorothy Sayers ends and Jill Paton Walsh begins Many other reviewers and critics agree Others say that this is because the writing is all Jill Paton Walsh that Sayers wrote only an outline and a little bit of the beginning Still others say that it is easy to tell the difference between Sayers writing and that of Walsh because Walsh failed to capture the voice and plotting of Sayers Looking at the reviews it is obvious that the nay sayers are in the minority I can not tell you which POV is correct though I tend to trust Rendell in matters literary I read all of the Lord Peter Wimsey books many years past and simply cannot recognize all of the nuances of Sayers styleWhether or not this is a good almost seamless continuation of Sayers Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries almost doesn t matter Walsh has written a fine novel Considerable effort has been devoted Wimsey mysteries almost doesn t matter Walsh has written a fine novel Considerable effort has been devoted characterization setting the scenes of time and place witty repartee and genial humour The world of upper class England in the 1930 s comes alive in these pages Some mystery fans will not like it because it is about halfway through this 500 page book before a murder occurs More troubling is Lord Peter Lady Harriet and Scotland Yard missing a few obvious and important clues and areas which should have been investigated further I do not remember encountering such obvious mistakes in Sayers mysteries So four stars rather than five. As they become part of fashionable London society they encounter the glamorous socialite Rosamund Harwell and her wealthy impressario husband Laurence Unlike the Wimseys they are not in love and all too soon one of them is dead A murder case that only Lord Peter Wimsey can solve. If you really really like Dorothy L Sayers you might in a fit of grief after finishing all her Peter Wimsey books turn to Thrones Dominations in which Walsh rounds some scratching of notes left behind by Sayers up to a novel This isn t a Sayers book it s the literary euivalent of a designer After We Collided (After, knock offI have mixed feelings about efforts like this On the one hand if they re good I ll forgive anything If they re not and I ve been tricked into reading them anyway by the transparent marketing scheme I end up annoyedIn my opinion this is slightly different than when a writer pays homage to a book they themselves love in a playful way Murder Comes to Pemberley might fall into this category since PD James obviously doesn t need to boost her sales using Austen s name Or when the writer is doing something complicated than trying to imitate the original Wide Sargasso SeaBasically if you really like Sayers you probably do so in part because she s such a good writer Walsh can t match up so don t bother you re just going to be disappointedOn the other hand I do recommend this short piece of Dorothy L Sayers fanfiction which is a lovely piece of amateur appreciation that captures the shadow that WWII throws back over the golden age detective stories Once you get it in your head that you re reading fan fiction this isn t a horrible book Trouble is I read and write fan fiction and I ve read better stuff than this Sayers style isn t easy and while Paton Walsh had notes and even some actual text to go off the dialog often feels forced as does the attempt to add historical events to the narrative even though Sayers herself had done that in both Gaudy Night and Busman s HoneymoonIt all boils down to the fact that Paton Walsh simply isn t the writer that Sayers was She s all right when she s dealing with the murder which is actually fairly clever but when it comes to Peter and Harriet and Bunter all stumbling a little while they work out the early days of Peter and Harriet s marriage she falls down on the job This was enjoyable I read it within a 24 hour period off and on between cominggoing and a dozen other physical tasks And it stillept its integrity cognition feel for tone that is periodplace and personality uniue through all those interruptions No little task It s says so much that Walsh could Web Marketing For Dummies keep it in the fold so to speak for such an up scale entity as these Lord Peter Wimsey books are Of course there was a style shift that did occur right about the time of the murder and with that long and first months of marriage beginning I can understand how Sayers let this one lay SO many uestions and reactions when two such intrepid personalities and dynamos of action have attached themselves to each other Especially at their ages and in this period The crime itself the plotting and the puzzle pieces of the forensics and the possible duplicity portents all fit I wouldn t put them above average but the coupleship of Peter and Harriet is carved in such depth here that it is not needed And I thought the escapade following the new King to France and those associations was pretty vivid to the feel too Younow Peter s true prioritiesRegardless of a few shifts in style and having the word pace and speed Sayers wrote longer and in shades of allusion change it was a superlative effort And I

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this than some 5 reads for the wit 1936 ambiance and also the portions at the end that tell you the future outcomes When I see the lower star ratings here I just disagree They seemed to want less new marriage and plot and i completely disagree marriage and plot And I completely disagree the conversational proclivities of it being artificial or forced This is 1936 and particularly the most liberated or independent or modern English couple would have had difficulty sorting out in talk the absences family uestion etc It s truly unfair to judge standards of one time by the strictures and language barriers to intimate talk of another era The sensibilities and the concepts being beyond different It s also illogical People and their sensibilities and values to open conversations are closely meshed into their era and personal experience of norm This is 1936What a gift for Walsh to give to Sayers Well done This is going to be long I read Thrones Dominations not too long after it first came out this is a second reading and first review Of Thrones Dominations Dorothy L Sayers had written six rough chapters and devised a plot diagram in coloured inks When sixty years later a brown paper parcel containing a copy of the manuscript turned up in her agent s safe in London her literary trustees commissioned Jill Paton Walsh to complete it I don t The Undesirables know No that s not true I do This is not what fans of Lord Peter wanted or needed It s not terrible but I have seen it referred to often as fan fic I m not sure the label exactly fits Thrones Dominations but it is like a great many Star Trek novels I read when I was a teenager In so many of those it seemed very much as if the writer had a generic science fiction manuscript sitting unsold in his drawer realized Star Trek novels were big at that time and changed the names and a handful of other details and got it published as part of the franchise despite barely a hint ofnowledge of or similarity to Star Trek as aired on television I have little background Online Marketing. knowledge of Jill Paton Walsh I m not saying that she doesn tnow and love the Lord Peter books as much as any of us But I m tempted to Because Peter books as much as any of us But I m tempted to Because are times when Thrones Dominations feels like it ought to The characters strike the right chord for a paragraph a line of narrative just feels good and then it goes back to the feeling of the alignment being somewhat off It s distracting to be wondering throughout the book was that genuine Sayers or counterfeit hoping in some ways that some of the good lines were JPW because that would mean she was capable while nowing given the sheer weight of not Sayers that it was unlikely The metaphor that came to me about halfway through because I do love me a metaphor was it s like meeting with an old friend you haven t seen in a long time and they ve changed Now and then as you talk there s a glimpse of the person you used to be so close to a spark of what used to be a connection like the old warmt. Dorothy L Sayers began writing Thrones Dominations her thirteenth Lord Peter Wimsey novel in 1936 then set it aside When a fragment forgotten for many years was found in her agent’s safe the trustees of the Sayers estate decided to ask the distinguished novelist Jill Paton Wal. ,

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H and then a minute later you re sitting with a stranger again A mostly likeable enough stranger in a way but A complaint I ve read about the book with which I wholeheartedly agree is that JPW seems to have gone back through the existing novels and gathered up minor characters from Bill Rumm to Uncle Paul and someone on the LPW group is right he would not have called him Uncle Pandarus in front of everyone to Harriet s friends Sylvia and Eiluned to Gerry and Freddy Arbuthnot along with references to canon books far than I remember Sayers ever using and tossed it all like fairy dust into the reader s eyes hoping for a fa ade of credibility andor distraction from the book s deficiencies I ept waiting for Miss Climpson Oh there she is and Reggie Pomfret too for heaven s sake JPW tried so hard to cram everything into this book that she didn t spend enough time on anything including the major characters Where there is a plethora of cameo appearances there is a disturbing dearth of Bunter He has had a handful of lines of dialogue and one scene in which he sits down for a drink and a debriefing with Peter Not enough Not nearly enough I hate it For that matter there s surprisingly little Parker and what there is comes off as priggish Despite Harriet he is primly made to state I don t read detective novels in an affronted tone His working with Peter feels off his marriage to Mary didn t change the way they worked together why should Peter s marriage I don t like this Charles what little we see of him A line from Charles It s like trying to overawe a brick wall For the sake of my sanity I have to believe DLS would have come up with something sharper than that The Dowager Duchess has always been one of my very favorite people in any book and I don t think this does her justice She needs to witter away and still under it all be perfectly sensible She doesn t witter nearly enough here there isn t enough fluff Harriet is much too deferential to Peter When she is with him she seems to walk on eggshells When she is not with him she references him or uotes him in nearly every other sentence She sounds like a June Cleaveresue 50 s housewife than an independent woman who very much has her own opinions thank you very much And why is she supposed to have hired a secretary Miss Bracy She s written for years without one uite efficiently Was she expecting such massive output that she would not be able to eep up with her own typing It seems in fact to have had a dampening effect Yes yes the marriage and she s safe now and doesn t need to write The incapacitation brought by happiness along with the surprising leaning toward tragedy for the new book is nicely done unfortunately both are beaten to death Also beaten to a pulp is the idea that this is a New Thing for Peter and Harriet Peter has to adjust to having the woman he has sought after so long to living with her in a new expansive home and the changes that entails Harriet has all that to cope with with the added wrinkle that she is going from one income bracket to very much another from a flat by herself to a stately home with not only Peter but a staff From dressing as she pleased and going out when she liked with friends to patronizing a pseudo French dressmaker and attending Wimsey family affairs It s all new to her every waking moment I wonder if this is why JPW chose to stick so much to every waking moment I wonder if this is why JPW chose to stick so much to s point of view We the loyal readers are too familiar with Peter and Bunter and never had much chance Dorothy Sayers stopped writing detective fiction in the late 1930 s Busman s Honeymoon was published in 1937 She sketched out the plot for a Lord Peter Harriet Vane mystery set in the early months of Lord Peter and Harriet s marriage after Busman s Honeymoon but never completed the sketches or the novel My understanding is that the first 6 chapters have most of the Sayers material in them but the remaining 15 chapters are written solely by Jill Paton Walsh This book was published in 1998Understanding immediately that this book was one that Dorothy Sayers herself never really wrote I still decided to forge ahead and read it First off it is a very poor murder mystery spoiler Who will be illed and why is fairly obvious from the start rather the Othello Desdemona type crime Even without a badly contrived scene where Harriet reads in the paper about a manslaughter case where a man has attacked his wife in a fit of passion and then accidentally Malice (Conspiracy 365, killed her by falling on her the crime provides little interest because younow what it will be and who will do it almost from the start Little sleuthing is needed The secondary crime an actual murder and not manslaughter is almost thrown in without much thought Second Walsh turns the characters of Lord Peter and Harriet into flat and wooden caricatures They lack interest as people and act via stilted posturing The passages that lend extra dimensions are ones that uote most significantly from Dorothy Sayers other Lord Peter books The love between Lord Peter and Harriet as evidenced in Busman s Honeymoon is totally mechanical in this book It is as though Walsh is writing about something she seems to now nothing about an intelligent woman and an intelligent man in love with each other both head intellect and heart emotion I understand that the literary banter so joyfully demonstrated in Busman s Honeymoon would be difficult to recreate And sadly Walsh does not recreate it It is as though she is searching for some literary uotes that she can some how throw in here and there It does not work alas Next Walsh does not understand the relationship between Bunter and Lord Peter nor indeed the relationship between the servants and the landed gentry At one point Bunter is invited by Lord Peter to get yourself a drink and come help me work on this as though he is a colleague YIKES That is so totally wrong for both the Lord Peter character and also for the Bunter character It just would not work that wayMy recommendation If You Have Read Any Of The Lord have read any of the Lord mysteries don t read this one It isn t the same Lord Peter Harriet is a stereotype and not a real woman the crime is uninteresting and the sparkle so usual in Sayers books is totally gone I ended up just skim reading this in the end Jill Pato. Sh to complete itThe result is this accomplished and ingenious novel worthy of the mistress of the golden age of the crime novel at her very bestIt is 1936 and Lord Peter Wimsey has returned from his honeymoon to set up home with his cherished new wife the novelist Harriet Vane. ,
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