The Kings Nursemaid eFor the face that launched a thousand ships she has very little story time here I just wish the structure had been a bit linear and Penelope had her own book to flesh out her story One of the best female retellings of some of my favourite Greek stories to date Now published in paperback I m not offering him the story of one woman during the Trojan War I m offering him the story of all the women in the war Well most of them I haven t decided about Helen yet She gets on my nerves I m giving him the chance to see the war from bothnds how it was caused and how its conseuences played out I read this book due to its longlisting for the 2020 Women s Prize for which it has now been shortlistedI had already been drawn to it by my Outback Survival enjoyment of other female viewpoint retellings of connectedvents such as Silence of the Girls and Circe both of which I Satans Fall enjoyed the author sxcellent chairing of the 2019 Booker shortlist readingsThe opening uote to my review sets out the basis of the book and is spoken by Calliope who Haynes believes must be the Muse in the opening line of Homer s Odyssey to Homer as she forces him to consider an alternative history Homer is not actually named in Haynes text just of course as the Muse is not named by Homer and this small detail gets to the heart of Haynes aim here which is to focus the story on the true or at least Collected Stories eual heroes of the Trojan War the suffering women of Troy the women of Greece waiting years for their husbands or sons to return Even here as the aside reference to Helen shows she tries to giveual prominence to female characters mentioned only in passing in the classical sources as to those much better knownThe book skips between the stories of these characters mainly told in a third party point of view style There are also three sets of recurring chapters Calliope s comments on her interactions with the writer which Reassuring Tales effectively serve as an opportunity for Haynes to review the previous set of chapter since Calliope last spoke andxpand on her themes and ideas These sections are in my view the strongest of the book And would he really have overlooked Laodamia as so many poets have before him A woman who lost so much so young deserves something The Cat Who Walked Across France even if it s just to have her story told Doesn t she There are so many ways of telling a war thentire conflict can be ncapsulated in just one incident One man s anger at the behaviour of another say A whole war all ten years of it might be distilled into that But this is the women s war just as much as it is the men s and the poet will look upon their pain the pain of the women who have always been relegated to the dges of the story victims of men survivors of men slaves of men and he will tell it or he will tell nothing at all They have waited long Tokyo Encounter enough for their turn And for what reason Too many men telling the stories of men toach other Do they see themselves reflected in the glory of Achilles Do their ageing bodies feel strong when they describe his youth Is the fat belly of a feasted poet reminiscent of the hard muscles of Hector The idea is absurd And yet there must be some reason why they tell and retell tales of men If he complains to me again I will ask him this is Oenone less of a hero than Menelaus He loses his wife so he stirs up an army to bring her back to him costing countless lives and creating countless widows orphans and slaves Oenone loses her husband and she raises their son Which of those is the heroic act A progressive narrative The Trojan Women Hecabe and her family including Cassandra who I found one of the most compelling characters wait on the shore while Troy burns as the Greeks divide their spoils including the women and their children These sections often serve to give a narrative structure to the story and to introduceset up other chapters An Wirtschaftsgesetze, 35. Auflage: IDW Textausgabe epistolary series Penelope s unanswered letters to Odyssey as she wonders why he has still not returned and recounts the stories she is hearing from the bards of his adventures andscapades These sections are played somewhat for laughs Penelope often incredulous at what she is hearing despite it Scribbleboy exactly matching the Odyssey as we know itg Cyclops Circe Scylla and Charybdis I found this a high risk strategy by Haynes we know from her other work that she is a great believer in the Classics and in the importance of people reading them but this approach seemed to me to run the risk of showing ElfQuest exactly why we should not read them by pointing out their general preposterousness And I think it s a gamble which does notntirely pay off I kept thinking that the author a renowned comedian would make of these sections than she actually doesThe other chapters are largely self contained chapters focusing on one or a small number of characters these characters include Greeks Trojans recent Gods the Aphrodite Hera Athene chapter on The Judgment of Paris is a particular strong point and a favourite of the authors and the ancient Gods Haynes subscribes to the theory that Eris s missed wedding induced insertion of a golden apple designed to create her signature strife between the three aforementioned Godesses was actually a plot by Themis and Zeus of course in her telling the invention of the formerThree asides here This latter story matches the opening uote tracing back the cause of the war past Paris s abduction of Helen back via the Judgement of Paris via the actions of
#Eris To Their Really #to their really cause The book also goes many years past the war in the story of Andromache In what I think is pretty well the only area where Haynes departs from any classical source although Dear Black Boy even here I may be incorrect and have just not found the reference and adds instead of a deliberate contemporarytopical link Themis and Zeus are motivated by the need to thin out the ranks of mankind as Gaia is finding it too hard to carry the weight of mankind and theirxpansion When deciding how to kill of some of mankind and in what is clearly a completely accidental topical link Themis and Zeus reject plague as Too inexact Sometimes it just picks off the old who would be dead soon anyway The issue with these chapters though is that due both to their sheer number and brevity I feel that in many cases the author does not really capture the voice or character of the chapter s subject Too many of the chapters I felt Tote Sprache: Cartoons auf Latein ended up reading likexpanded Wikipedia ntries running through the basic story and often to be honest just recounting the normal men s story just observed by a woman Two classic cases and which link to other recent books are The chapter on Briseis and Chryseis which almost reads like a plot summary of The Silence of The Girls but without the latter s clever deliberate anachronisms although also without its misjudged switch to male viewpoint The chapter on Iphengia which choes the opening of Colm Toibin s House of Names in which we wait to see how the horror of her fate gradually unfolds on her only to find its in a single paragraph And then she saw the glint of her father s knife in the morning sun and she understood verything in a rush as though a god had put the words into her mind The treacherous stillness in the air was divinely sent Artemis had been affronted by something her father had done and now she demanded a sacrifice or the ships would "not sail So there would be no marriage no husband for Iphigenia Not today and not ver Overall I think this "sail So there would be no marriage no husband for Iphigenia Not today and not Nightmares Angels ever Overall I think this works very well as a female centric survey of and intrroduction to the Greek legends and hence I think succeedsxactly on the basis on which it was formulated and written I was less convinced of it as a piece of literature and would rank behind both Pat Barker and Madeline Miller s books which were longlisted for last year s prize it was nevertheless njoyable And I have sung of the women the women in the shadows I have sung of the forgotten the ignored the untold I have picked up the old stories and I have shaken them until the hidden women appear in plain sight I have celebrated them in song because they have waited
long nough justenough Just I promised him this was never the story of one woman or two It was the story of all of them My thanks to Picador for an ARC via NetGalley. Who fought Achilles on their behalf to Penelope awaiting the return of Odysseus to the three goddesses whose feud started it all these are the stories of the women whose lives loves and rivalries were forever altered by this long and tragic war A woman’s Las alas de la mariposa epic powerfully imbued with new life A Thousand Ships puts the women girls and goddesses at the center of the Western world’s great talever to. Sometimes it feels as if my hearts only purpose is to beat for greek mythology and this book is a gift straight from zeus himself to give me life this retelling of the trojan war including the actions that lead up to it and the conseuences that followed is uite refreshing whilst classic myths tell about the glory and conuests of men this focuses on the often overlooked presence of women Whence the Black Irish of Jamaica? elegantly written from the narration of calliope the goddess ofpic poetry the reader is given a uniue perspective that is often ignored as calliope answers the pleas of a poet she provides a compilation of the many women goddesses greeks and trojans alike whose lives were affected by the war and although this isnt told in chronological order but rather an anthology of stories the narrative is uite Rich Men, Single Women exceptional the writing provides such a vivid characterisation thatven in the shortest of chaptersstories i felt so connected to the womenthis is a must read for fans of greek mythology specially those looking for a new perspective of a classic story 45 stars Third read of the 2020 Women s Prize for Fiction longlist DNF at page 57 This is a slight improvement on the 2019 Women s Prize longlist nominee on the Trojan War The Silence of the Girls by Pat Barker which claimed to offer a female perspective on the war but was ultimately dominated by the viewpoint of its male characters Natalie Haynes honors the women raising their voices to provide a broader perspective on the war and its aftermath She flits from one woman to the next introducing the perspective of five different women in the first fifty pages with additional female characters to follow Narrative perspective shifts from first to third person Some chapters follow a linear path while others fade in and out of the past and present This leaping about narratively and through time gives the book a uality of being patchwork and frenetic disjointed The systematic checking off of ach woman s perspective minimizes character development And while Haynes writing is pretty it lacks Ten Twentieth-Century Poets emotional depth further distancing the reader To nominate another book on the Trojan War suggests a book that s better than last year s nominee To a slight degree Haynes has accomplished that particularly in her first person narrative following Calliope s conflict with a certain poet but there s notnough of a distinction from last year s disappointing nominee not In the Days of the Comet Seventeen Short Stories (Works of H.G. Wells 10) enough new being brought to the table to stir feelings of adoration or awe Verdict A Thousand Ships is too succinct and detached to warrant pushing through The women were waiting on the shore gazing blankyed at the sea The tang of dried green seaweed and bent brown reed stalks fought against the stench of smoke which filled their clothes and matted hair After two days the Greeks were finally completing their systematic looting of the blackened city and as the women waited to find out who they now belonged to they huddled around their ueen as though her last Period Power embers might keep them warm I find itxtraordinary that a classicist can claim that the women from the Trojan cycle are forgotten ignored hidden As if all those Athenian plays built around the figures and words of the women in these stories never Biblical Standard for Evangelists existed Euripides The Trojan Women Hecuba Andromache Aeschylus Clytemnestra Ovid s Heroides which rewritespic from the points of view of women such as Penelope Helen and Laodamia ven Ovid s Metamorphoses which gives us a subversive Calliope alongside the other muses It s disingenuous and it also leaves the stories in this book feeling derivative mundane and unimaginative Just look at what Atwood did with Penelope in her The Penelopiad for an original take on classical texts Two stars because Kalliope is amusing Longlisted for the 2020 Women s Prize for Fiction45 StarsThis is another retelling of the Trojan War The novel covers vents which happened before and during Homer s two Jesus Calling epic poems The Iliad and The Odyssey However with this retelling we have something which has not been done before The story is told from the female characters perspective Be they mortals ueens or gods all the characters are female with the male characters taking a back seatThe story begins with the sacking of Troy The Greeks last ditchffort the trick that spawned the saying beware Greeks bearing gifts the Trojan Horse has worked and the Greeks are within the walls raping and pillaging Frustrations of ten long years of fighting being taken out on the people of TroyThe very first chapter belongs to Calliope the muse who is refusing to help Homer compose his Ebeles Favourite epic poem She will not help him until she receives an offering as all mortals must do This is one of my favourite parts of the novel Calliope will pop up again and again following Homer as he composes his poem Yes in a genius stroke Haynes takes Homer out of the narrative replacing him with Calliope the chief of all the muses andpic poetry nsuring that the story being told from the female perspective begins right from the startHaynes gives voices to characters who are integral to the original tale and yet almost never got to open their mouths in the original poems Characters such as Briseis and Chryseis Without these two women there would have been no plague Achilles would not have withdrawn his forces from the war Patroclus would not have taken his place tc these two women in the original poem are vital characters without a voiceThe structure of the narrative is very similar to Colleen McCullough s retelling Song of Troy in that The Quiet Front each chapter is devoted to one character and their perspective There are a number of chapters howeverntitled The Trojan Women and in these chapters we find the royal women of Troy Priam s wife and daughters Hector s wife waiting to find out their fateAbout half the novel is devoted to Penelope Odysseus wife writing letters to him waiting and longing for his return She learns through Homer s poems the trials that Odysseus is going through and his struggles while Penelope struggles to believe the poets words we find what it is like for her waiting twenty years for Odysseus to return to her Haynes shines a "light on her painAt times the novel feels almost like an anthology of Greek myths "on her painAt times the novel feels almost like an anthology of Greek myths the narrative is not chronological with chapters weaving back and forth However they are all brilliantly connected and the reader never loses their way In fact Haynes has done a marvellous job placing the various chapters in the order they are Even somebody who has never read Homer would find it difficult to get lostI do believe that lovers of Homer and his Beading on a Loom epic poems will get out of this novel but as with the other retellings I also think that this book will benjo I am conflicted This delivered what it set out to do which is an account of the Trojan war from a multitude of female perspectives My issue was that this is precisely what it did
this was awas a of the most straight up kind The perspectives were sometimes too brief for me to get a feel for the character behind it and others were dwelt on but never returned to so that I felt my growing Nights of the Round Table empathy severed before it had a chance to plant its roots I appreciate Haynes for delivering this story but ultimately my adoration with the concept was notnough to keep me fulfilled by its narrative structure There are so many ways of telling a war the Introduction to Modern Information Retrieval entire conflict can bencapsulated in just one incident One man s anger at the behaviour of another say A whole war all 10 years of it might be distilled into that But this is the women s war just as much as it is the men s and the poet will look upon their pain the pain of the women who have always been relegated to the When Miss Gangster Meets Her Match edges of the story victims of men survivors of men slaves of men and he will tell it or he will tell nothing at all They have waited longnough for their turnAnd for what reason Too many men telling the stories of men to ach other Do they see themselves reflected in the glory of Achilles Do their ageing bodies feel strong when they describe his youth Is the fat belly of a feasted poet reminiscent of the hard muscles of Hector The idea is absurd And yet there must be some reason why they tell and retell tales of menIf he com. “With her trademark passion wit and fierce feminism Natalie Haynes gives much needed voice to the silenced women of the Trojan War” Madeline Miller author of CirceShortlisted for the Women’s Prize for Fiction a gorgeous retelling of the Trojan War from the perspectives of the many women involved in its causes and conseuences for fans of Madeline MillerThis is the women’s war just as much as .
Plains to me again I will ask him this is Oenone less of a hero than Menelaus He loses his wife so he stirs up an army to bring her back to him costing countless lives and creating countless windows orphans and slaves Oenone loses her husband and she raises their son Which of those is the heroic actThis book is the book that Pat Barker s The Silence of the Girls strived to be It gives an authentic voice to the stories of all the women affected by the Trojan war be they goddess nymph Trojan or Greek and doesn t randomly switch to a male PoV which was the major flaw of Barker s book I thought considering its title that is At times here the prose is a little dry I wish it had something of Pat Barker s rawness of motion but the narrative is woven in such an ingenious fashion and the stories of True Paradise each woman so punchy that the sometimes dry prose can be forgiven I loved how the chapters were almost like little connected vignettesvery reminiscent of Ovid s Metamorphoses to me The research gone into character development and creating an overarching plot connecting all these women is truly fabulous I love how not all the women are perfect snowflakesither They re flawed and gritty full of their own prejudices and therefore feel all the realI really wish that there was fuss about this book It fully deserves to share the spotlight with modern Greek mythology retellings such as the aforementioned The Silence of the Girls and the marvellous House of Names Circe The Song of Achilles and the much lauded Penelopiad which I think is possibly the most overrated Greek retelling I ve had the displeasure to read Highly recommended to anyone who loves Greek retellings For reviews and book related chat check out my blog I feel I would have njoyed this book if I knew less of the source material Now a lot of the short chapters feel like a retelling or ven an infodump than truly a stand alone story with fully realized characters Survivors victims perpetrators these roles are not always separate People can be wounded and wounding at the same time or at different times in the same lifeA Thousand Ships starts of with poetic visions of what razing a city means fires so bright that people and birds awake from an illusion of sun Natalie Haynes intends to give voices to the females involved often victim of the war for Troy and the subseuent Croatie : Cte Adriatique, Dalmatie events Sometimes her approach feels almost fan fiction like I found it strangely satisfactory to finally understand how the wooden horsentered Troy and how we got the Laocoon group but in the Jonathan Visits the White House end following all the threads shows a lot of thevents must just be attributed to divine interventions and an anachronistic Malthusian view the Greek Pantheon supposedly had towards humansFor the Trojan Women known from Euripides his work the Greek are barbarians showing how much history is written by victors This sentence at the nd of the book reinforces that messaging He is learning that in any war the victors may be destroyed as completely as the vanuished They still have their lives but they have given up verything Από τη Μήδεια στη Σταχτοπούτα, Η ιστορία του φαλλού else in order to keep them They sacrifice what they do not realize they have until they have lost it And so the man who can win the war can only rarely survive the peaceDespite their stories being known as said already Euripides already in antiuity lifted their fates from The Iliad the level of brutality towards the conuered is unsettling With children being thrown from the city walls and Andromache being forced to bed the responsible man who is the son of the man who killed her husband Hector as a sad highlight Also the life of Cassandra blessed with foresight and cursed by never being believed is terrible and raises uestions of predestination and free will Hekabe being a badass to the Thracian king in chapter 28 is nice as wellI uite liked the recurring postmodern complaints from muze Calliope in respect to Homer but in general I feel that 43 chapters in a book not much above 300 pages did not help with giving the stories of all the women involvedmotional gravitas Sentences like these from someone you only follow for 10 pages feel a bit This Poison Will Remain empty I ll grief for my family when I am alone What if you never areHow the gods are depicted also grated why is Athena a whiny little girl in this rendition of the verdict of Paris Apollo COVID 19ying the Greeks for revenge felt kind of interesting but Eris for instance was a walking cliche of a revenge andnvy driven characterIn the What Red Was end I feel Margaret Atwood her The Penelopiad and House of Names by Colm T ib n andven The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller do a better job of reimagining the source material that in itself is already very rich than the fragmentary and sometimes almost infodump like approach of A Thousand ShipsI found the audiobook narration by the author delightful and love the cover of the book but in the Sweep of the Blade (Innkeeper Chronicles, end this was a 25 star read for meuotes Injoyed Even in war there are rules Our losses will be shared she said You should save your sorrow for yourself She curved beneath her dress like a dolphin or a seal arcing through the surface of the waterWaiting is the cruelest thing that "I Ever Endured Like Bereafment Without CertaintySome Things Don T "ever Infernal Dictionary Deluxe Edition endured like bereafment without certaintySome things don t wisdom justyesThemis preferred statements to uestionsThis seems to be so xtravagantly unlikely I almost believe it s true Looks like female orientated classical retellings are continuing into 2019 and you will not see me arguing with this delightful trend at allllll ARC received in xchange for an honest review 35 starsA Thousand Ships is an Life by Committee epic undertaking tackling not only The Trojan War but it s long and drawn out aftermath all told from the women s perspective Always therever present this is their story From slave to ueen to goddess this is how they all became involved in the mighty Trojan War and what befell them when the great city burned I would say that before going into this you need at least a small amount of background knowledge regarding the Trojan War There is a non linear timeline here that covers backstories and the reasonings behind the war as well as flash forwards and prophecies from multiple points of view Without some knowledge of the original texts this pulls from the story could get very confusing with lots of characters to remember as well as the various timelines I do think that at times it tried to cover too much making the story a little too thinned out over too many people meaning I couldn t deeply connect with many of them Odysseus journey could have been a whole separate book on its own although I did love Penelope s humour and sass specially when she begins to repeatedly uestion her husband s loyalty to his wife while he lords it up with various beautiful immortal women I also really njoyed the tone of Calliope s muse of The Keeper of the Jackalopes epic poetry small chapters They helped to break up the heavy storylines involving the Trojan women with Calliope herself acting almost as a narrator or show woman of the stage breathing life into her poet s tale She also had a biting wit and a dislike of Helen that had me laughing a few times My favourite chapter however is the one involving the golden apple and Athena Aphrodite Hera and Paris A story that starts the Trojan War I loved seeing the goddess s act so childishly reacting with jealousy and vengeful wrath when they don t get their own way However we later learn that they ve all been manipulated from the outset with the machinations of the war brought to fruition by Zeus himself Immortals trickled at their own games they re all delightfully horrid characters who use mortals as playthings to pass the time Aside from the slightly unnecessary large cast Inded up really End Product enjoying this It s what I wasxpecting from The Silence of the Girls where the
women truly taketruly take stage for once in their own story The Trojan women with all their heartbreak and suffering grief and misery Cassandra with her cursed visions and madness seeing not only her own death but that of her brothers and sisters too Over and over It s no wonder she went mad Even Clytemnestra and poor innocent Iphigenia I loved hearing their opinions sharing their motions Even Helen s Although perhaps ironically. T is the men’s They have waited long nough for their turn This was never the story of one woman or two It was the story of them all In the middle of the night a woman wakes to find her beloved city The Perfect Bride for Mr. Darcy engulfed in flames Ten seeminglyndless years of conflict between the Greeks and the Trojans are over Troy has fallenFrom the Trojan women whose fates now lie in the hands of the Greeks to the princess.